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F1 Challenge 99-02: Odd brakes overheating problem?
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Mikko Ämmälä
2006-03-23 08:08:43 UTC
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Suddenly after some years with F1 Challenge 99-02in every
race/training/QF my brakes start to overheat after 2-3 laps and a couple
of laps later they are completely gone.

Car setups have not been modified (brake duct size 2/3).

Could the problem be my Microsoft Wheel (non-force) related?

I had to reinstall the software a few days back and there has been some
problems (but not right away) since like:

a) Car is definitely more restless (lap times are not that much affected
but I must drive more carefully and there is a lot of noise coming from
the wheels

b) Controller settings sometimes show "braking" even no pedal is pressed
- this probably is the reason. Re-calibrating does not seem to help.

Anyone had same problems?

Thanks for any suggestions/wheel settings to this problem!

.mikko
Dave Erb
2006-03-23 09:09:59 UTC
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Suddenly after some years with F1 Challenge 99-02in every race/training/QF
my brakes start to overheat after 2-3 laps and a couple of laps later they
are completely gone.
Car setups have not been modified (brake duct size 2/3).
Could the problem be my Microsoft Wheel (non-force) related?
I had to reinstall the software a few days back and there has been some
a) Car is definitely more restless (lap times are not that much affected
but I must drive more carefully and there is a lot of noise coming from
the wheels
b) Controller settings sometimes show "braking" even no pedal is pressed -
this probably is the reason. Re-calibrating does not seem to help.
Anyone had same problems?
Thanks for any suggestions/wheel settings to this problem!
.mikko
Had some similar problems a while back with my Momo force that turned out to
be a loose pot mount that had enough slack that sometimes the pot would not
return to its zero position.
Interim solution was to use DxTweak2 (this is for XP systems) to tune out
the problem area. Ultimate solution required pedal unit disassembly to
anchor the pot properly

Dave
Dave Henrie
2006-03-23 15:54:33 UTC
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Post by Dave Erb
Post by Mikko Ämmälä
Suddenly after some years with F1 Challenge 99-02in every
race/training/QF my brakes start to overheat after 2-3 laps and a
couple of laps later they are completely gone.
Car setups have not been modified (brake duct size 2/3).
Could the problem be my Microsoft Wheel (non-force) related?
I had to reinstall the software a few days back and there has been
a) Car is definitely more restless (lap times are not that much
affected but I must drive more carefully and there is a lot of noise
coming from the wheels
b) Controller settings sometimes show "braking" even no pedal is
pressed - this probably is the reason. Re-calibrating does not seem
to help.
Anyone had same problems?
Thanks for any suggestions/wheel settings to this problem!
.mikko
Had some similar problems a while back with my Momo force that turned
out to be a loose pot mount that had enough slack that sometimes the
pot would not return to its zero position.
Interim solution was to use DxTweak2 (this is for XP systems) to tune
out the problem area. Ultimate solution required pedal unit
disassembly to anchor the pot properly
Dave
Try adding some deadzone to your brake controller axis. Also with any
logitech wheel, here are some tips they 'MAY' apply to MS..who knows?.
Calibrate in windows. Calibrate in game. Then EVERY time you leave the
garage, give your wheel and pedals a full travel shakedown. Move the
wheel back and forth over the entire range of movement. Logitech drivers
include a self centering mechanism. Repeat for both pedals. Fully
depress
and release each. Do this in the pits...on the starting grid...whenever
you go 'on track'
Those may not help since they are pointed at Momo wheels, but heck,
it can't hurt.
You also might want to load up a mod that has cars with brake lights.
you can then drive around in the arcade view and observe if your lights
are lit up all the time. Keep adding deadzone until they stop.
Then check your lcd screens, one will show brake temps....the brakes
should not heat up while just moving forward(say from the pits) but if
the temps start to climb before you ever touch the brake pedal...then you
know the deadzone is not big enough yet.
(the other) dave


dave henrie
Mikko Ämmälä
2006-03-23 21:53:37 UTC
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Post by Dave Henrie
Post by Dave Erb
Post by Mikko Ämmälä
Suddenly after some years with F1 Challenge 99-02in every
race/training/QF my brakes start to overheat after 2-3 laps and a
couple of laps later they are completely gone.
Car setups have not been modified (brake duct size 2/3).
Could the problem be my Microsoft Wheel (non-force) related?
I had to reinstall the software a few days back and there has been
a) Car is definitely more restless (lap times are not that much
affected but I must drive more carefully and there is a lot of noise
coming from the wheels
b) Controller settings sometimes show "braking" even no pedal is
pressed - this probably is the reason. Re-calibrating does not seem
to help.
Anyone had same problems?
Thanks for any suggestions/wheel settings to this problem!
.mikko
Had some similar problems a while back with my Momo force that turned
out to be a loose pot mount that had enough slack that sometimes the
pot would not return to its zero position.
Interim solution was to use DxTweak2 (this is for XP systems) to tune
out the problem area. Ultimate solution required pedal unit
disassembly to anchor the pot properly
Dave
Try adding some deadzone to your brake controller axis. Also with any
logitech wheel, here are some tips they 'MAY' apply to MS..who knows?.
Calibrate in windows. Calibrate in game. Then EVERY time you leave the
garage, give your wheel and pedals a full travel shakedown. Move the
wheel back and forth over the entire range of movement. Logitech drivers
include a self centering mechanism. Repeat for both pedals. Fully
depress
and release each. Do this in the pits...on the starting grid...whenever
you go 'on track'
Those may not help since they are pointed at Momo wheels, but heck,
it can't hurt.
You also might want to load up a mod that has cars with brake lights.
you can then drive around in the arcade view and observe if your lights
are lit up all the time. Keep adding deadzone until they stop.
Then check your lcd screens, one will show brake temps....the brakes
should not heat up while just moving forward(say from the pits) but if
the temps start to climb before you ever touch the brake pedal...then you
know the deadzone is not big enough yet.
(the other) dave
dave henrie
Thanks. It was deadzone related problem!

.mikko

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